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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2011, 11:16:52 AM »

You have the right parts and idea to start.  I always liked the "third wheel" concept, combined with one matching Hobie scupper cart  (or one of those under the hull wheeleez carts like Tom uses).

If you want to keep things simple, just use a Hobie scupper cart on one end and the wheeleez or C-TUG on the other.  Folks seem happy with this.  I don't know which fits in the front hatch, except for the C-TUG but the collapsable Wheeleez may fit with the 30cm tires removed.  (Tom might be good enough to check this for you).  

If you really want to get geeky, the front drivewell/locks look interesting. This area is somewhat reinforced already.  Plus there's a steel on steel positive locking mechanism just sitting there. WTH.  

You can cheaply buy the same metal axle rod that goes through your mirage drive and mount this to your wheel/support plate.  Just need a way to wedge, screw or ratchet it down to take out any slack below the hull.  But I would avoid anything sharp in the scupper or drivewell areas, like the pvc tabs in the CAD.

By now you realize how heavy the TI hull is and how hard it would be to put any wheel in place, even after the the hull is supported by the rear wheels.  The trick will be making it a one man job.

Three wheels would be sufficient for the AI (over-engineered) but for the TI, I wonder...  But please build one, cuz if it works, us AI guys can borrow it.   Grin
  


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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2011, 04:25:32 PM »

I thought this might give you designers some info to go on - from the hobie site.

Notice the middle scuppers by the rear crossbar are near the center of balance.

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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2011, 08:24:31 AM »

Good picture for reference. I ordered the wheel so hopefully before too long I will report back that the three wheel concept works or is rubbish for my needs.
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2011, 11:09:08 AM »

Got the wheel today...man is this sucker big! Now how do I carve out some more free time to goof off with the boat?


The mass of it looks like it will be up to the task. Fingers crossed!
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2011, 12:52:59 PM »

NICE wheels!
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2011, 05:36:10 PM »

As are these: http://www.sealegs.com/extra/animation.php

I'll let Tom cogitate on this one for a bit.  Grin


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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2011, 05:48:33 PM »

YEAH TOM!!! YOU SHOULD GET THOSE TOO  Grin Grin!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2011, 09:35:57 PM »

Nah....dis one mo' my style  Wink


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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2011, 07:48:07 AM »

Well as with any endeavor, there are a couple of issues with the three wheel application. First the good news...
It fits nicely into the front hatch!

and because its a tall assembly I wont have to make a "spacer" to correct the height. This was going to add weight. Now I just need a thin adapter plate to get the swivel housing mated to the locating feature (still leaning toward canibalizing a Mirage drive blank)

Now the bad news...
My current scupper cart is not tall enough for the new wheel which makes the tail lower and defeats the purpose. I was thinking that having the front wheel lower would be ideal so I could load up the front seat location foot area with all the heavy stuff and reduce the load on the rear scupper wheels. 


I will need to make some kind of spacer for the scupper cart, looks like I will need 2-3 inches to balance it out. (maybe I can make a pvc assembly with a couple of tees and a cross member and move the cushion up to the new cross bar and get the height. There is room to do this, that you can see by looking at how much pokes through the top, but may put more load on the scupper holes, depending on how the concept balances out.



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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2011, 08:19:15 AM »

You have plenty of room, just move up the collars the 2-3"  Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2011, 10:20:04 AM »

Yes- reposition the movable collars and/or put tennis balls on the posts for cushioning.  T-balls will tame the bumpy ride from those hard HD wheels and ride a bit more like the inflatable one.

A large noodle wrapped around the crossbar will take some pressure off the scuppers too.  However, if you put all the TI's weight on that bar you will end up with one of THESE:



BTW - those cheap *** mirage inserts are ******* flimsy as ****!  And you have learned by now that they can be inserted from the top only.  Undecided
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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2011, 11:48:32 PM »

Started the upgrades to the "blala cart". Got the winch in the mail this morning. Should be buttoned up/ functional tomorrow.Will update with new picts. Maybe make an upgraded video too. Mahalo for the Club Video Site Nohuhu. Intend to get some footage of the gang, their "rides", and some Hawaiian scenery/sunshine at the next meet. Hope some others with video cameras can add future content to enhance the link.
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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2011, 06:32:59 PM »

Mostly pau with the "Blala Cart". The rope and pulley was erratic and messy. Went with a small winch. Couple of small details to complete but I'm jumping on making a modified EZ corner tent for the "windy" club meet coming soon. Here are a couple of snap shots. Plan to load test a Ti at the meet. Hope it does not become a bloopers and blunders type test...Blessings&Aloha, Tom


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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2011, 11:10:30 PM »

YEESH!!!!!!

all hail: THE KING OF PVC!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2011, 11:21:39 PM »

Motor?    Grin
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